Starshine Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 AH the ECB are back tracking...ffs 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painter Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2021/09/10/india-players-signed-midnight-letter-bcci-refusing-play-old/amp/ The India players signed a letter at midnight on Thursday telling their board they would not be playing the fifth Test at Old Trafford due to fears over covid, Telegraph Sport understands. After a day of frantic calls and meetings between the players, the BCCI and the ECB, the match was cancelled at the 11th hour on Friday with thousands of fans already in Manchester and heading to the ground. Senior India players met on Thursday night and despite reassurances from the ECB about the covid protocols, decided to stand together with many fearing a further spread of covid could prevent them from playing in the IPL which restarts in the UAE on Sept 19. All India's player returned negative covid tests on Thursday. There are now high-level talks between the ECB and BCCI over whether the match was forfeited by India. An initial statement from English cricket's governing body on Friday morning said: "India are unable to field a team and will instead regrettably forfeit the match." The official mention of a forfeit was later removed but behind the scenes, the ECB argued that the match was forfeited because all India’s playing squad returned negative test results. The BCCI said it was a covid cancellation (and therefore not a forfeit) because of "fears" about the virus spreading among the camp. India's governing body then released a statement de-escalating the conflict, saying it had offered to reschedule the Test match and that both boards would work together to try to find a window to play the match. The row over forfeiture or cancellation has huge ramifications for the ECB. If the match is forfeited by India then the ECB are covered by insurance for losses of around £40m, in the same way they would be if the game was forfeited for the death of a monarch or a terrorist attack. But if the match is cancelled by Covid, the ECB are not covered by insurance leaving them with a huge whole in their finances, a year after losing £16m. The matter could end up being resolved by the International Cricket Council’s dispute resolution committee. The ECB are also furious that India’s head coach, Ravi Shastri, attended a book launch in London last week along with 150 members of the public. Shastri was the first member of the India party to test positive and in private, England sources are referring to him as 'patient X'. The book launch had not been cleared by the ECB’s covid compliance department. India are now attempting to leave England as quickly as possible by arranging a charter flight to the UAE on Saturday. The flight from East Midlands Airport was originally due to leave on Wednesday, the day after the scheduled final day's play at Old Trafford. The bulk of India’s support staff, who will not work on the IPL, will return home on commercial flights. Three ways to resolve the Old Trafford Test 1) The match is rearranged India are keen to reschedule and have offered to play the final Test next summer. While both countries already have saturated schedules, a rearrangement would avoid a dispute about how to cover the shortfall from this game being cancelled - estimated at £40 million. All games in the ongoing World Test Championship must be played before March 2023, so if the match was played next summer the series would still be completed in time. England only have six Test matches scheduled for next summer - one fewer than the norm in recent years. India have also shown that they are willing to field completely separate squads in different formats of the game - in July, they sent a separate squad to Sri Lanka for a limited-overs series while their Test squad were in England. India are already due to tour England for a limited-overs series next summer, so a Test could potentially be played before or after that, even if it meant shifting other parts of the schedule. 2) The match is forfeited If the match is forfeited, England are covered by insurance as they would for the death of a monarch cancelling a Test or a terrorist incident. Under this scenario, England would be covered for the estimated £40 million they stand to lose from this match being cancelled. England would also be declared the winners of the game, meaning that the series would end as 2-2 for the purposes of the World Test Championship. 3) The match ends in the courts If the match is not rearranged, and India refuse to declare the match forfeited - which would cost them a series victory in England, and potentially their chances of reaching the next World Test Championship final - then the match could ultimately be decided in the courts. This would be a deeply undesirable scenario for the ECB, who have worked to improve relations with India in recent years. But it may be unavoidable. Under the ICC rules for Test matches affected by Covid-19, the result could be determined by the ICC’s dispute resolution committee should the ECB choose to lodge a complaint. The rules for the ongoing edition of the World Test Championship allow for matches to be cancelled - rather than forfeited - if there is “significant impact” from Covid-19. The interpretation of this clause could be worth £40 million to the ECB, and help decide the next World Test Championship winners. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stillearly Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/cricket-indian-coach-ravi-shastri-under-fire-as-side-withdraws-from-england-test-series/MSY3CKXTJ6RPPRW5ZCPZI5PTFU/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starshine Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 25 minutes ago, Stillearly said: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/cricket-indian-coach-ravi-shastri-under-fire-as-side-withdraws-from-england-test-series/MSY3CKXTJ6RPPRW5ZCPZI5PTFU/ Sheer arrogance 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galenkia Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 BCCI has more clout than any other authority in cricket these days. Probably demanding the match is not called a forfeit. Money talks again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stillearly Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galenkia Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Stillearly said: Bracknell Wetherspoons first 11?. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starshine Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galenkia Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 43 minutes ago, Starshine said: Iffy security situation I think. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stillearly Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, galenkia said: Iffy security situation I think. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/9/20/england-cancels-cricket-tours-of-pakistan-over-security-concerns The decision, taken by the England and Wales Cricket Board on Monday, came three days after New Zealand Cricket abandoned its men’s team’s limited-overs tour of Pakistan following a government alert that warned of a possible attack outside Rawalpindi Stadium. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painter Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 On 9/4/2021 at 8:56 PM, galenkia said: Tough day for the bowlers, lot of effort for little reward. Still don't see what Ali brings to the table, no wickets and most runs conceded. Keeps getting picked on the odd good T20 innings. Got to get Leach back, bowling well for Somerset currently. On 9/5/2021 at 3:44 PM, coxyhog said: Agreed,Ali takes the odd wicket but goes for far too many.I think he's in the side to boost the batting but the way he got out in the first innings disproves that.Him & Hameed out playing ODI shots. Appears Ali has heard your concerns... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2021/09/26/englands-moeen-ali-quit-test-cricket-focus-white-ball-format/amp/ Cba to cut and paste the article, as it doesnt say much... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galenkia Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 7 hours ago, Painter said: Appears Ali has heard your concerns... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2021/09/26/englands-moeen-ali-quit-test-cricket-focus-white-ball-format/amp/ Cba to cut and paste the article, as it doesnt say much... Seems he knows his time in Test cricket is done. Still gonna play White ball, which he is currently better at, so sensible decision really. Rashid did the same the other year. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galenkia Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Bought a ticket this morning for the T20i against South Africa next July at the Ageas Bowl. Was on the pre sale list, given priority as I had attended a match at the ground earlier this season. Goes to a ballot next month. Could have got one for the Indian match but it's a Wednesday and don't know what I'll be doing work wise then. This one is on a Sunday. Roll on summer!!. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxyhog Posted October 18, 2021 Author Share Posted October 18, 2021 England vs India T20 warm up match for the WC live on Sky at 3pm UK time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galenkia Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Curtis Campher takes 4 wickets in 4 balls for Ireland v Netherlands at the WC today. Fucking awesome bit of bowling. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxyhog Posted October 18, 2021 Author Share Posted October 18, 2021 England batsmen seem in good nick,188-5. Moeen,Bairstow & Livingstone getting most of the runs. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starshine Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Bugger...at least its just a warm up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starshine Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 2 hours ago, galenkia said: Curtis Campher takes 4 wickets in 4 balls for Ireland v Netherlands at the WC today. Fucking awesome bit of bowling. South Africa will want him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galenkia Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Livingston suffering from a finger injury, hopefully not serious and they will assess it when the swelling goes down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxyhog Posted October 18, 2021 Author Share Posted October 18, 2021 38 minutes ago, galenkia said: Livingston suffering from a finger injury, hopefully not serious and they will assess it when the swelling goes down. Already without Stokes,Archer & Sam Curran. I'm not expecting very much from this WC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galenkia Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 31 minutes ago, coxyhog said: Already without Stokes,Archer & Sam Curran. I'm not expecting very much from this WC. Plus Morgan has been out of sorts as well batting wise. Livingston would be a big loss as he was superb in the Hundred. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starshine Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 We won the toss and are fielding...Come on England we owe them one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxyhog Posted October 23, 2021 Author Share Posted October 23, 2021 Windies 42-6 after 9😀 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starshine Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, coxyhog said: Windies 42-6 after 9😀 We've had worse days 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starshine Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Great ball Rashid 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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