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12 hours ago, roobob said:

Yes we have a pandemic..... yes we should have some restrictions..... but no we do not need Govts whose only policy is that one solution will fit all.

This is from Australia... one of the countries that gets repeatedly reported that they have a handle on all things. Well this is a case where one glove does not fit all things... a good example where each case should be judged on its own merit.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/western-australia-perth-father-cancer-treatment-delayed-by-two-weeks-due-to-covid19/b87b7683-6dbe-4a99-a662-c69d76880144

This fellow is being denied treatment for 2 weeks because he has to isolate when he returns from NSW to WA.... even though he has been tested for Covid by some of the best medical experts in the country.

We have now have politicians making and over ruling medical decisions made by respected medical personal so they can hold onto their power that they have attained from this.... only one word for it...… disgraceful.

cheers

The hospital said Mr Carlyon's treatment had been scheduled for a later date because it was standard practice to wait at least three weeks to allow for post-surgery healing.

 

So the hospital was following standard practice. Well let's see about that.

Radiotherapy can only start once the wounds from the operation have fully healed, which takes a few weeks. You
might feel anxious about waiting to start your treatment. Your doctor is the best person to talk to if you have any
concerns about the timing of your radiotherapy treatment.

https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/brain-tumours/treatment/radiotherapy/radiotherapy-treatment

Gee, so even in other countries they wait until the surgical wounds have fully healed before they start radiation therapy.

 

And the only politician mentioned throughout the story is that idiot Katsambanis who never misses an opportunity to get his mug on TV.

 

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17 minutes ago, Murchie said:

I remember as a kid it was someone's job to go around the car park and collect the trolleys. Bringing in the deposit system done away with the need for that job. 

Depends where you are.

At the shopping centres I use they still rely on people doing the right thing. Most do, no need to bribe them but there are still some lazy kunts who can't walk 10 metres.

 

 

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Just keep on taking the tablets Donny...

Malaria drug touted by Trump linked to increased risk of death: study

Washington: A study of 96,000 hospitalised coronavirus patients on six continents found that
those who received an anti-malarial drug promoted by US President Donald Trump as a "game
changer" had a significantly higher risk of death compared with those who did not.

People treated with hydroxychloroquine, or the closely related drug chloroquine, were also more
likely to develop a type of irregular heart rhythm, or arrhythmia, that can lead to sudden cardiac
death, it concluded.

The study, published on Friday in the medical journal The Lancet, is the largest analysis to date of
the risks and benefits of treating COVID-19 patients with anti-malarial drugs. It is based on a
retrospective analysis of medical records, not a controlled study in which patients are divided
randomly into treatment groups – a method considered the gold standard of medicine. But the
sheer size of the study was convincing to some scientists.

The new analysis – by Mandeep Mehra, a Harvard Medical School professor and physician at
Brigham and Women's Hospital, and colleagues at other institutions – included patients with a
positive laboratory test for COVID-19 who were hospitalised between December 20, 2019, and
April 14, 2020, at 671 medical centres worldwide. The mean age was 54 years and 53 per cent were
men. Those who were on mechanical ventilators or who received remdesivir, an antiviral drug
made by Gilead Sciences that has shown promise in decreasing recovery times, were excluded.

Nearly 15,000 of the 96,000 patients in the analysis were treated with hydroxychloroquine or
chloroquine alone or in combination with a type of antibiotics known as a macrolide, such as
azithromycin, within 48 hours of their diagnosis.

The difference between patients who received the anti-malarials and those who did not was
striking.

For those given hydroxychloroquine, there was a 34 per cent increase in risk of mortality and a 137
per cent increased risk of serious heart arrhythmias. For those receiving hydroxychloroquine and
an antibiotic – the cocktail endorsed by Trump – there was a 45 per cent increased risk of death
and a 411 per cent increased risk of serious heart arrhythmias.

Those given chloroquine had a 37 per cent increased risk of death and a 256 per cent increased risk
of serious heart arrhythmias. For those taking chloroquine and an antibiotic, there was a 37 per
cent increased risk of death and a 301 per cent increased risk of serious heart arrhythmias.

https://www.watoday.com.au/world/north-america/malaria-drug-touted-by-trump-linked-to-increased-risk-of-death-study-20200522-p54vp3.html

 

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1 minute ago, fygjam said:

Just keep on taking the tablets Donny...

Malaria drug touted by Trump linked to increased risk of death: study

Washington: A study of 96,000 hospitalised coronavirus patients on six continents found that
those who received an anti-malarial drug promoted by US President Donald Trump as a "game
changer" had a significantly higher risk of death compared with those who did not.

People treated with hydroxychloroquine, or the closely related drug chloroquine, were also more
likely to develop a type of irregular heart rhythm, or arrhythmia, that can lead to sudden cardiac
death, it concluded.

The study, published on Friday in the medical journal The Lancet, is the largest analysis to date of
the risks and benefits of treating COVID-19 patients with anti-malarial drugs. It is based on a
retrospective analysis of medical records, not a controlled study in which patients are divided
randomly into treatment groups – a method considered the gold standard of medicine. But the
sheer size of the study was convincing to some scientists.

The new analysis – by Mandeep Mehra, a Harvard Medical School professor and physician at
Brigham and Women's Hospital, and colleagues at other institutions – included patients with a
positive laboratory test for COVID-19 who were hospitalised between December 20, 2019, and
April 14, 2020, at 671 medical centres worldwide. The mean age was 54 years and 53 per cent were
men. Those who were on mechanical ventilators or who received remdesivir, an antiviral drug
made by Gilead Sciences that has shown promise in decreasing recovery times, were excluded.

Nearly 15,000 of the 96,000 patients in the analysis were treated with hydroxychloroquine or
chloroquine alone or in combination with a type of antibiotics known as a macrolide, such as
azithromycin, within 48 hours of their diagnosis.

The difference between patients who received the anti-malarials and those who did not was
striking.

For those given hydroxychloroquine, there was a 34 per cent increase in risk of mortality and a 137
per cent increased risk of serious heart arrhythmias. For those receiving hydroxychloroquine and
an antibiotic – the cocktail endorsed by Trump – there was a 45 per cent increased risk of death
and a 411 per cent increased risk of serious heart arrhythmias.

Those given chloroquine had a 37 per cent increased risk of death and a 256 per cent increased risk
of serious heart arrhythmias. For those taking chloroquine and an antibiotic, there was a 37 per
cent increased risk of death and a 301 per cent increased risk of serious heart arrhythmias.

https://www.watoday.com.au/world/north-america/malaria-drug-touted-by-trump-linked-to-increased-risk-of-death-study-20200522-p54vp3.html

 

That's probably the 100th article on this......

Anybody who has worked in malaria infested countries used to take them in the old days.  

Problem is that in the C19 treatment the dose is much, much higher.

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Looks like there's something to this social distancing and we're saving flu victims as well.

WA’s public pathology labs haven’t detected a single case of influenza in a month as social distancing restrictions appear to be preventing more than just the spread of coronavirus.

 

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https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/wa-flu-gastro-cases-down-to-record-low-levels-as-social-distancing-prevents-more-than-just-covid-19-20200522-p54vnf.html

 

As far as Covid-19 goes, Western Australia has just 3 active cases and none are in hospital.

No new cases for a while, but going back doing antibody testing to up the case count. Three historical cases found, none died.

 

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50 minutes ago, fygjam said:

The hospital said Mr Carlyon's treatment had been scheduled for a later date because it was standard practice to wait at least three weeks to allow for post-surgery healing.

 

So the hospital was following standard practice. Well let's see about that.

Radiotherapy can only start once the wounds from the operation have fully healed, which takes a few weeks. You
might feel anxious about waiting to start your treatment. Your doctor is the best person to talk to if you have any
concerns about the timing of your radiotherapy treatment.

https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/brain-tumours/treatment/radiotherapy/radiotherapy-treatment

Gee, so even in other countries they wait until the surgical wounds have fully healed before they start radiation therapy.

 

And the only politician mentioned throughout the story is that idiot Katsambanis who never misses an opportunity to get his mug on TV.

 

Read it again.... the surgeon who done his operation said ..... actually he insisted...… that radiation begin as soon as he arrived back in Perth. 

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28 minutes ago, roobob said:

Read it again.... the surgeon who done his operation said ..... actually he insisted...… that radiation begin as soon as he arrived back in Perth. 

cheers

No need, I understood it when I read it the first time.

Standard practice after brain surgery is to wait until all surgical wounds have healed. Absolutely nothing to to with isolation due to Covid-19. I know that doesn't fit with the narrative you're trying to spin but that's the case.

If he wanted non-standard treatment he should have stayed in Sydney or found a quack prepared to do it.

 

 

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12 hours ago, Sherlock said:

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Perhaps if Lord Ashcroft paid his taxes in UK rather than hiding behind shell companies in tax havens like Belize, he might not be such a smug self serving twat.

 

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1 hour ago, fygjam said:

No need, I understood it when I read it the first time.

Standard practice after brain surgery is to wait until all surgical wounds have healed. Absolutely nothing to to with isolation due to Covid-19. I know that doesn't fit with the narrative you're trying to spin but that's the case.

If he wanted non-standard treatment he should have stayed in Sydney or found a quack prepared to do it.

 

 

Wow...… a google expert...… now graduated to a brain surgeon..... what next...a rocket scientist..... lol

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9 hours ago, dcfc2007 said:

 

The British police don't have the numbers to enforce that. They would need to quadruple their fleet of LGBT covered rainbow cars. 

What will f**k over the ordinary working class punter is that employers will enforce the quarantine.

So if you go on holiday for 1 week you won't be allowed to return to work until 2 weeks after your return. 

The stupidity is unreal. 

When the virus came around they should have targeted the age groups most at risk, closed entry completely to this Country and allow the rest to get on with near normality. Not destroying the economy in the process. 

Why this ISN'T about a virus but a re-shuffling of the tax and money system, freedoms etc. 

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9 hours ago, dcfc2007 said:

So GP's and the British Heart Foundation are the MSM?

Ignore baiting posts, just put your own point across mate.

Some are experts at posting pish.

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50 minutes ago, roobob said:

Wow...… a google expert...… now graduated to a brain surgeon..... what next...a rocket scientist..... lol

cheers

I accept your surrender.

 

 

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4 hours ago, fygjam said:

 

Tough call who to believe. Someone with 30 years experience in nursing and probably knows a bit about infection control or someone who's main concern appears to be "a pint".

Elsewhere, another poster goes on about the lockdowns causing alcoholism. I wonder is it's more a case of the established alcoholics are finding it harder to hide their dependence.

Decision made, I'll stick with Dr. John.

4 hours ago, fygjam said:

 I wonder is it's more a case of the established alcoholics are finding it harder to hide their dependence

 

 

Ah, so now you are inferring I am an alcoholic ??

I enjoy a pint and the company -- it is called socialising. In the present climate we are not allowed to do so and I look forward to the day when we all can, and get a bit of normality back. My opinion is that this should be sooner rather than later-- if you disagree then that is entirely YOUR prerogative. If I disagree with your posts-- then that is MY prerogative

What I take issue with is that there are board members on here who have documented their struggle with alcohol and you are belittling them with your ill thought out statement. But as long as you can continue your ad hominem attack on me then thats alright in your eyes ?

Keep digging pal, keep digging.

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10 minutes ago, fatbhoytim said:

Ah, so now you are inferring I am an alcoholic ??

Not at all.

I am inferring that you know SFA about infection control!

Actually I won't infer it I'll state it outright. You know SFA about infection control.

 

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47 minutes ago, farangme said:

The stupidity is unreal. 

When the virus came around they should have targeted the age groups most at risk, closed entry completely to this Country and allow the rest to get on with near normality. Not destroying the economy in the process. 

Why this ISN'T about a virus but a re-shuffling of the tax and money system, freedoms etc. 

i just think they f***d up

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3 hours ago, Thai Spice said:

That's probably the 100th article on this......

Anybody who has worked in malaria infested countries used to take them in the old days.  

Problem is that in the C19 treatment the dose is much, much higher.

err...no its not...in fact less

http://www.guildlink.com.au/gc/ws/sw/pi.cfm?product=swpplaqu10718

standard dose to prevent /reduce viral load is 200mg per day

standard dose to treat covid 200mg twice a day

malaria 400mg twice a day

when will you stop making shit up to suit your agenda

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5 minutes ago, fatbhoytim said:

Ah, so now you are inferring I am an alcoholic ??

I enjoy a pint and the company -- it is called socialising. In the present climate we are not allowed to do so and I look forward to the day when we all can, and get a bit of normality back. My opinion is that this should be sooner rather than later-- if you disagree then that is entirely YOUR prerogative. If I disagree with your posts-- then that is MY prerogative

What I take issue with is that there are board members on here who have documented their struggle with alcohol and you are belittling them with your ill thought out statement. But as long as you can continue your ad hominem attack on me then thats alright in your eyes ?

Keep digging pal, keep digging.

In the same way that there are members here who are over 60 and some with health issues. We are also vulnerable. 

We want to be safe along with millions of others in our age range and do not wish to be marginalised. 

Everyone is affected in some way through Corona virus restrictions.  That includes those with dependencies 

I have an alcoholic in my family and the help and support that he was getting from one to one counselling is now being done over the phone. The AA group that he belongs to are trying to set up video conferencing so that their members can have virtual meetings 

We are All having to adapt our way of life during the social restriction measures. It's going to be tougher for some and not for others. 

I get rather cross when I listen to or read that they want to completely open lockdown as it's just the elderly and sick who are vulnerable. Then as the virus spreads again, they have to spend their lives in total isolation or risk becoming ill or even dying. Many of those people have paid their taxes and NI for all of their lives and some have fought in the services for their county. Surely they are equally important?

We all want to stay alive and well

We all would like to resume normality to live those lives

And there lies the "RUB" 

 

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25 minutes ago, fatbhoytim said:

Tough call who to believe. Someone with 30 years experience in nursing and probably knows a bit about infection control or someone who's main concern appears to be "a pint".

Elsewhere, another poster goes on about the lockdowns causing alcoholism. I wonder is it's more a case of the established alcoholics are finding it harder to hide their dependence

 

 

12 minutes ago, fygjam said:

Not at all.

I am inferring that you know SFA about infection control!

Actually I won't infer it I'll state it outright. You know SFA about infection control.

 

So why try to conflate alcoholism with infection control ? Makes sense to you obviously. That was nothing more than a thinly disguised attack on me -- of whom you know ( in the words of an all seeing professional googler) SFA.

I would appreciate it if you were to ignore any post I may make. In fact I will make it very clear for the hard of thinking ---- Take Yourself To f**k

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1 minute ago, Nightcrawler said:

In the same way that there are members here who are over 60 and some with health issues. We are also vulnerable. 

We want to be safe along with millions of others in our age range and do not wish to be marginalised. 

Everyone is affected in some way through Corona virus restrictions.  That includes those with dependencies 

I have an alcoholic in my family and the help and support that he was getting from one to one counselling is now being done over the phone. The AA group that he belongs to are trying to set up video conferencing so that their members can have virtual meetings 

We are All having to adapt our way of life during the social restriction measures. It's going to be tougher for some and not for others. 

I get rather cross when I listen to or read that they want to completely open lockdown as it's just the elderly and sick who are vulnerable. Then as the virus spreads again, they have to spend their lives in total isolation or risk becoming ill or even dying. Many of those people have paid their taxes and NI for all of their lives and some have fought in the services for their county. Surely they are equally important?

We all want to stay alive and well

We all would like to resume normality to live those lives

And there lies the "RUB" 

 

I think there ois a strong case for opening up NOW rather than before.The situation where we e overwhelmthe health sevice has passed

We have to live with this fucker  until we find a vaccine but social distancing must continue until that time .Better if every one wore masks too

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5 minutes ago, Nightcrawler said:

In the same way that there are members here who are over 60 and some with health issues. We are also vulnerable. 

We want to be safe along with millions of others in our age range and do not wish to be marginalised. 

Everyone is affected in some way through Corona virus restrictions.  That includes those with dependencies 

I have an alcoholic in my family and the help and support that he was getting from one to one counselling is now being done over the phone. The AA group that he belongs to are trying to set up video conferencing so that their members can have virtual meetings 

We are All having to adapt our way of life during the social restriction measures. It's going to be tougher for some and not for others. 

I get rather cross when I listen to or read that they want to completely open lockdown as it's just the elderly and sick who are vulnerable. Then as the virus spreads again, they have to spend their lives in total isolation or risk becoming ill or even dying. Many of those people have paid their taxes and NI for all of their lives and some have fought in the services for their county. Surely they are equally important?

We all want to stay alive and well

We all would like to resume normality to live those lives

And there lies the "RUB" 

 

While that is a well thought out and relevant post, my reply was to the poster who is continually trying to attack me. I still stand by my belief that this lockdown should now be lifted as soon as possible. We all have differing opinions, but personal attacks should not come into it.

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1 minute ago, Ivan the terrible said:

I think there ois a strong case for opening up NOW rather than before.The situation where we e overwhelmthe health sevice has passed

We have to live with this fucker  until we find a vaccine but social distancing must continue until that time .Better if every one wore masks too

I agree and disagree. To me, the two are still at odds

We cannot totally open Now whilst we are maintaining social distancing.  It is almost impossible for many businesses to adapt under those conditions 

If we open up now without those restrictions, there is a risk of a second wave of the pandemic which could set us back to where we were in March. 

There has to be some form of compromise but none of us really know what will work and what will not until its tried. 

If the government decided to open as usual for business, and it goes pear shaped, they will be blamed, so in that respect I can understand their caution at present. 

They can't satisfy everyone, but trying to keep a ballance until further information is available 

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7 minutes ago, Nightcrawler said:

I agree and disagree. To me, the two are still at odds

We cannot totally open Now whilst we are maintaining social distancing.  It is almost impossible for many businesses to adapt under those conditions 

If we open up now without those restrictions, there is a risk of a second wave of the pandemic which could set us back to where we were in March. 

There has to be some form of compromise but none of us really know what will work and what will not until its tried. 

If the government decided to open as usual for business, and it goes pear shaped, they will be blamed, so in that respect I can understand their caution at present. 

They can't satisfy everyone, but trying to keep a ballance until further information is available 

sure we cannot go back to" normal" people and workplaces need to be "covid safe"but they can be 

The biggie is public transport ....its a nightmare

f**k carbon emmissions...get people in cars   

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