COVID 19 GLOBAL

[roobob]

Excellent decision ...... hopefully more professions will follow and so they should. Time this type of discrimination was done away with.

cheers

Unvaccinated teachers to be welcomed back to schools as mandate ends (msn.com)

 

Edited June 22, 2022 by roobob

[lazarus]

Fyi...

How many lives have been saved by covid-19 vaccines?
A new study estimates that the number is greater than the population of Chile

Covid-19 vaccines began saving lives in clinical trials. But a new study, based in part on The Economist’s estimate of the pandemic’s true death toll, attempts to model just how many lives have been spared since vaccines became widely available to the public. (See chart.)

The study—published on June 23rd in Lancet Infectious Diseases—found that in the first year of vaccine rollout, jabs saved the lives of 19.1m-20.4m people. Without vaccines, the study estimates, roughly three times as many people would have died from covid in 2021 alone. And 6.8m-7.7m of the prevented deaths were in countries covered by covax, an initiative created to ensure vaccines were sent to poorer countries.

Still, a lack of vaccines in some parts of the world still led to avoidable deaths. Around 100 countries failed to reach the World Health Organisation’s goal of vaccinating 40% of their eligible populations by the end of 2021. The researchers estimate that this cost around 600,000 lives.

To arrive at these estimates the researchers, Oliver J. Watson, Gregory Barnsley and their colleagues at Imperial College London, began with an existing transmission model used to track the spread of covid infections. They then combined this model with The Economist’s estimate of the pandemic’s true death toll to estimate how deadly the pandemic would have been without vaccines.

The study has its limitations. It relies on assumptions about the share of estimated infections that led to death, for instance. China, which has limited reliable data, was excluded from the analysis, as were very small countries. That means the total number of actual averted deaths will be even higher. On the other hand, the researchers did not attempt to model how people or governments might have changed their behaviour to limit infections in the absence of vaccines. For all that, it is the most definitive answer yet to how many people owe their lives to the jabs.

. . .

source: https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2022/06/24/how-many-lives-have-been-saved-by-covid-19-vaccines?utm_content=ed-picks-article-link-1&etear=nl_special_1&utm_campaign=a.coronavirus-special-edition&utm_medium=email.internal-newsletter.np&utm_source=salesforce-marketing-cloud&utm_term=6/25/2022&utm_id=1214594

Edited June 25, 2022 by lazarus

[fforest]

5 hours ago, lazarus said:

Fyi...

How many lives have been saved by covid-19 vaccines?
A new study estimates that the number is greater than the population of Chile

Covid-19 vaccines began saving lives in clinical trials. But a new study, based in part on The Economist’s estimate of the pandemic’s true death toll, attempts to model just how many lives have been spared since vaccines became widely available to the public. (See chart.)

The study—published on June 23rd in Lancet Infectious Diseases—found that in the first year of vaccine rollout, jabs saved the lives of 19.1m-20.4m people. Without vaccines, the study estimates, roughly three times as many people would have died from covid in 2021 alone. And 6.8m-7.7m of the prevented deaths were in countries covered by covax, an initiative created to ensure vaccines were sent to poorer countries.

Still, a lack of vaccines in some parts of the world still led to avoidable deaths. Around 100 countries failed to reach the World Health Organisation’s goal of vaccinating 40% of their eligible populations by the end of 2021. The researchers estimate that this cost around 600,000 lives.

To arrive at these estimates the researchers, Oliver J. Watson, Gregory Barnsley and their colleagues at Imperial College London, began with an existing transmission model used to track the spread of covid infections. They then combined this model with The Economist’s estimate of the pandemic’s true death toll to estimate how deadly the pandemic would have been without vaccines.

The study has its limitations. It relies on assumptions about the share of estimated infections that led to death, for instance. China, which has limited reliable data, was excluded from the analysis, as were very small countries. That means the total number of actual averted deaths will be even higher. On the other hand, the researchers did not attempt to model how people or governments might have changed their behaviour to limit infections in the absence of vaccines. For all that, it is the most definitive answer yet to how many people owe their lives to the jabs.

. . .

source: https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2022/06/24/how-many-lives-have-been-saved-by-covid-19-vaccines?utm_content=ed-picks-article-link-1&etear=nl_special_1&utm_campaign=a.coronavirus-special-edition&utm_medium=email.internal-newsletter.np&utm_source=salesforce-marketing-cloud&utm_term=6/25/2022&utm_id=1214594

Well your profile picture proves that the vaxes are dangers because they turn people into dogs...

[lazarus]

8 minutes ago, fforest said:

Well your profile picture proves that the vaxes are dangers because they turn people into dogs...

Woof. 

But I would not bite your dumb as.....

[fygjam]

34 minutes ago, fforest said:

Well your profile picture proves that the vaxes are dangers because they turn people into dogs...

So your profile picture proves that not being vaccinated turns you into a girl?

 

[lazarus]

2 minutes ago, fygjam said:

So your profile picture proves that not being vaccinated turns you into a girl?

 

..or Transgender... 😁

[coxyhog]

I've felt quite a bit better today so tested myself again....still +....bugger!

[coxyhog]

At last tested negative,still don't feel right,head all congested as if I've got a cold.

When I have a head cold I either take 4Flu,Tiffy of Decolgen & they clear my nose at night & act as good knockout drops especially with prior alcohol consumed.Also got some good decongestion sprays which also work.

None of these work on congestion caused by Covid.

[Bazle]

1 minute ago, coxyhog said:

At last tested negative,still don't feel right,head all congested as if I've got a cold.

When I have a head cold I either take 4Flu,Tiffy of Decolgen & they clear my nose at night & act as good knockout drops especially with prior alcohol consumed.Also got some good decongestion sprays which also work.

None of these work on congestion caused by Covid.

Yes, the congestion lasted a long time for me too. 

What I found helped was to keep dairy products out of my diet. 

[coxyhog]

Anyway the most important thing is.......

I'm going to the pub!😆

[john luke]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-62008118

Covid cases up 32% as Omicron sub-variants drive infections

Summary

1. Covid infections in the UK jump by 32% in a week, latest data from the Office for National Statistics shows
2. Weekly coronavirus figures show 2.3m infections were recorded in the week to 24 June up from 1.7m the week before
3. This is the highest estimate for total infections since late April but the impact on hospitals remains limited
4. Across the UK, one in 30 people in England and Wales, one in 25 in Northern Ireland and one in 18 in Scotland have the virus
5. Two sub-variants of Omicron - called BA.4 and BA.5 - are driving new infections in the UK and elsewhere
6. People can catch the newer variants even if they have had coronavirus recently
7. But vaccines are still offering strong protection against severe illness and the new variants are not thought to be any more dangerous

 

 

 

 

[Bazle]

They say:

But vaccines are still offering strong protection against severe illness and the new variants are not thought to be any more dangerous. 

 

Unfortunately, they don't also mention if prior infection offers similar protection. 

[Horizondave]

53 minutes ago, Bazle said:

They say:

But vaccines are still offering strong protection against severe illness and the new variants are not thought to be any more dangerous. 

 

Unfortunately, they don't also mention if prior infection offers similar protection. 

I read that most are in hospital for other things and catch Covid while there. The new variants are not causing issue to those in the profession or those keeping an eye out for variants of concern, it is only making headlines in the media.

The vaccination program seems to be achieving its aim of protection against severe disease in most cases. The headlines are there to shock, to worry when in fact they are not really a major worry. Of course we all need to be vigilant and with my trip less than 3 weeks away I will step up my need to be careful in where I go, who I interact with etc. Can't be 100% safe but got to be cautious.

[boydeste]

Two ladies that I know Currently have covid. Both laid up in bed with severe flu symptoms.  Both triple vaxed.

 

Edited July 1, 2022 by boydeste

[galenkia]

Had heavy cold or flu last week or so. Maybe Covid but never tested.

Don't worry about it anymore.

[Krapow]

My only concern is people being off with a positive test and adding to the travel disruption.  More flights getting cancelled all over Europe now as well. Though Turkey seems okay, so far 

This from Van Tam a couple of days ago, who was one of the Gov's main cheerleaders for the vaccine roll out, and explaining why we needed the restrictions when we did. 

I couldn't agree with him more, especially about people taking their own responsibility in regards to what they personally consider risky or not, and get on with it. 

 

Prof Sir Jonathan Van-Tam, who until recently was England's deputy chief medical officer, told the BBC the country was in a different situation from the peaks in infections earlier in the year.

He said: "I don't wear a face covering, but if there were circumstances where I felt it was a really closed environment, with very high crowding and very intense social interaction, then those are the situations where I might think 'should I or shouldn't I?'.

"And I think people have got to learn to frame those risks for themselves."

The professor, who is now pro-vice-chancellor at the University of Nottingham's faculty of medicine and health sciences, told BBC Radio 4's Today programme that it was time to start reassessing how we think about Covid, thanks to the success of vaccines.

"In terms of its kind of lethality, the picture now is much, much, much closer to seasonal flu than it was when [coronavirus] first emerged.

"And you know, we just accept in the winter that, if you've got seasonal flu and you're poorly for a few days, it disrupts your life. And so I think we've got start to frame Covid in a little bit more of those terms."

He said experts would continue to watch closely for any large rises in severe illness and more people ending up in hospital or intensive care.

[Butch]

^^^^^^^^^

Van Tam was a very straight talking, no nonsense kind of guy. I think his input was a good balance against Prof Whitty's doom mongering and lockdown stance.

I've got a video of both of them and some other boffins on a Zoom conference in which my Mrs was present. They didn't have a great deal of time for one another.

Interesting how he mentions people taking responsibility of their own volition. Even now I see kids of all ages and adults still wearing masks in Supermarkets.

I've stopped wearing a mask now, but if I felt off colour or thought I might pose a risk, I'd be the first to put it back on and be sensible. I will wear a mask into our local PO though, as it's full of coffin dodgers and they all wear them, so I do out of respect and so as not to worry them anymore than they already are.

 

[forcebwithu]

Seems the media is trying to drum up hysteria with "end of the world", clickbait headlines about variant BA.5.
The 'worst variant' is here

Fortunately there are more reasoned articles about the new variant if anyone takes the time to search for articles other than MSM.
Omicron and BA.5: A Guide to What We Know

[Krapow]

The media have nothing short of disgraceful during all this, and still they're putting the fear into people.

My missus had a sore throat on Saturday, tested and 2 lines. Never got any worse than a sore throat.  Me and my daughter never got it.

More transmissible, less severe. would've thought that was good news. But plenty of the media continue to churn out the nonsense for the Karens and putting the fear into folk. 'The worst variant' is here, absolute horseshit, headshaking stuff!

 

[Mr. Smooth]

1 hour ago, Krapow said:

The media have nothing short of disgraceful during all this, and still they're putting the fear into people.

My missus had a sore throat on Saturday, tested and 2 lines. Never got any worse than a sore throat.  Me and my daughter never got it.

More transmissible, less severe. would've thought that was good news. But plenty of the media continue to churn out the nonsense for the Karens and putting the fear into folk. 'The worst variant' is here, absolute horseshit, headshaking stuff!

 

I have a strong suspicion the media in the USA will be promoting that very narrative in the fall.

For obvious reasons.

[Butch]

1 hour ago, Krapow said:

The media have nothing short of disgraceful during all this, and still they're putting the fear into people.

My missus had a sore throat on Saturday, tested and 2 lines. Never got any worse than a sore throat.  Me and my daughter never got it.

More transmissible, less severe. would've thought that was good news. But plenty of the media continue to churn out the nonsense for the Karens and putting the fear into folk. 'The worst variant' is here, absolute horseshit, headshaking stuff!

 

Like the WHO recent release, it's in their interest to promote this, as it secures funding. I'm not sure who's more corrupt, WHO or FIFA. Either way, they're wankers serving their own interests.

I do, however, think that much of this will fall upon deaf ears. The public has no appetite for a return to 2020, with the obvious exception of the public sector final salary layabouts on semi permanent WFH.

Also, current events in Eastern Europe have put the mockers on any chance of returning to lockdown, (one would hope) the UK and most other EU countries simply can't afford it. It's a case of either getting our pants pulled down by Putin if we did, and then being bankrupted by Covid anyway which, in a really shitty case scenario will turn a chunk of the West into truly socialist Govts whereby your wages are dictated by the Govt and you're given an allowance. /tinfoilhatoff.

/tinfoilhaton/ We're already heading towards  a cashless society, the more cynical among us may question as to how much of a success it has been and where it is going from here /tinfoihatoffagain.

Sounds bonkers, and probably is, but for some radical left wing idiots, that is exactly what they want - a form of utopian society where everyone is equal, and the proletariat has ownership of industry, but the point they miss is that with that small benefit comes being under control by the Govt elite, but their stupidity doesn't allow them to see the big picture.

I actually managed to get a face to face appt with my doc last week, she was done up like a bloody biological warfare scientist (which is a shame as she's a cracking bit of stuff). I sat there in jeans and T shirt, asking her why she is so "over protected" - "because Covid is still here" was her answer. When intelligent, educated people are being hoodwinked, people in positions of trust to whom we listen are falling for it, what chance does the average "do as your told" joe have?.

We're all doomed. doomed I tell ya.

 

[forcebwithu]

^^^ Hope to see more "fall upon deaf ears" reports like this one.

Thailand News Today | WHO warns of more Covid, but does the world care?

[coxyhog]

12 hours ago, Butch said:

I actually managed to get a face to face appt with my doc last week, she was done up like a bloody biological warfare scientist (which is a shame as she's a cracking bit of stuff). I sat there in jeans and T shirt, asking her why she is so "over protected" - "because Covid is still here" was her answer. When intelligent, educated people are being hoodwinked, people in positions of trust to whom we listen are falling for it, what chance does the average "do as your told" joe have?.

Don't forget that she is face to face with very vulnerable people,I doubt she was all masked up for her own protection but so she doesn't pass it on.

[Nightcrawler]

I think we all had an idea that the Covid virus was not going away, and that it was bound to mutate .

But unlike the original Delta strain, which took the lives of many and  caused a massive influx of hospital admissions, the latest variants appear to be far milder (except perhaps in the most vulnerable).  

It would be almost unthinkable to many, of going into further lockdowns and I guess, in UK anyway, that we are all living with. 

The time for panic or alarm is when death rates and hospitalisation hit the numbers that they did with in the first 6 months of the Delta pandemic, Nationally and Internationally. 

Whilst we should be kept informed about the Virus and its mutations, its no longer doom and gloom and the Media should be careful of how it is reporting 

[Krapow]

15 hours ago, Butch said:

Like the WHO recent release, it's in their interest to promote this, as it secures funding. I'm not sure who's more corrupt, WHO or FIFA. Either way, they're wankers serving their own interests.

I do, however, think that much of this will fall upon deaf ears. The public has no appetite for a return to 2020, with the obvious exception of the public sector final salary layabouts on semi permanent WFH.

 

f**k sake leave me outta this