Popular Post Horizondave Posted September 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 9, 2022 Many of our members with kids in the UK may have already have this book. It was given to all children in the 4 nations. In England they received it during the jubilee but here in Wales we had been waiting for a special dual language edition. Ironically it was delivered to our primary school yesterday at 4pm, a time and date that is now highly significant. I picked up my daughter's copy today and it is a beautiful book that Kataleya will cherish and hopefully hand down to her children. 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yessongs Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Just curious to anyone of you who might know, like all of us, being watching the TV here and the press from all the media sources are kind of being " tight lipped" about EXACTLY what happened in the last 48 hours of her life. Now I saw that The Queen had only on Tuesday, met the new PM, she was standing, not in a wheelchair, no one was by her side ( that I could see) she seemed happy, smiling, and not sure what took place in the next 48 hours to suddenly just pass away like that. Granted she was 96...just curious if there was some kind of major episode in that time period? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stillearly Posted September 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, Yessongs said: Just curious to anyone of you who might know, like all of us, being watching the TV here and the press from all the media sources are kind of being " tight lipped" about EXACTLY what happened in the last 48 hours of her life. Now I saw that The Queen had only on Tuesday, met the new PM, she was standing, not in a wheelchair, no one was by her side ( that I could see) she seemed happy, smiling, and not sure what took place in the next 48 hours to suddenly just pass away like that. Granted she was 96...just curious if there was some kind of major episode in that time period? I doubt they will give a lot of detail , but she wasn't well enough to travel to London on Monday to accept the resignation of the PM or appoint the new one , so they had to travel to Scotland to see her .. there was meant to be a virtual meeting of her privy council on. Wednesday, that was cancelled because of her health .. then she passed yesterday, her children rushing up to Balmoral to be with her ... so it seemed to happen fairly quickly , which seems like the perfect way to go .. 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhunDon Posted September 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 9, 2022 My dad passed age 107 and was perfectly fine (for a 107 year old) 2 days before, as I’d dropped him off at his bank and he caught the bus home. Admittedly he’d slowed down considerably over the last year, but didn’t have any serious illnesses. I think his body just decided it was time to go and 2 days later he died in his sleep in hospital. 3 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqualung Posted September 9, 2022 Author Share Posted September 9, 2022 2 hours ago, KhunDon said: My dad passed age 107 and was perfectly fine (for a 107 year old) 2 days before, as I’d dropped him off at his bank and he caught the bus home. Admittedly he’d slowed down considerably over the last year, but didn’t have any serious illnesses. I think his body just decided it was time to go and 2 days later he died in his sleep in hospital. Wow! 107 years old. What a man. I bet he could share a few stories. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy dee Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 it will be a while before details come out, but word is that Hm had a stroke in the morning. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunDon Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 15 hours ago, Aqualung said: Wow! 107 years old. What a man. I bet he could share a few stories. Yes, he was the youngest of 14 kids and outlived them all. 🤗 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freee!! Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 (edited) I just read the funeral will be held on Monday the 19th, starting at 11:00 (UK time). Edited September 10, 2022 by Freee!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britboy Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 On 9/9/2022 at 5:01 PM, Yessongs said: Just curious to anyone of you who might know, like all of us, being watching the TV here and the press from all the media sources are kind of being " tight lipped" about EXACTLY what happened in the last 48 hours of her life. Now I saw that The Queen had only on Tuesday, met the new PM, she was standing, not in a wheelchair, no one was by her side ( that I could see) she seemed happy, smiling, and not sure what took place in the next 48 hours to suddenly just pass away like that. Granted she was 96...just curious if there was some kind of major episode in that time period? While she was mobile and smiling during her audience with Liz Truss if you look closely her wrist just above her right hand was markedly black, possibly indicating a circulation issue. I didn't notice it myself, someone pointed it out to me. Still can't get over it . . 😪 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunDon Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 4 hours ago, Britboy said: While she was mobile and smiling during her audience with Liz Truss if you look closely her wrist just above her right hand was markedly black, possibly indicating a circulation issue. I didn't notice it myself, someone pointed it out to me. Still can't get over it . . 😪 The same marks appeared on my dads hands from around 90 years of age and slowly spread over the next few years, but his heart was fine, so was his circulation, so maybe just an age thing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forcebwithu Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 1 hour ago, KhunDon said: The same marks appeared on my dads hands from around 90 years of age and slowly spread over the next few years, but his heart was fine, so was his circulation, so maybe just an age thing. Could be the result of medication a person is on, particularly blood thinners which can lead to easy bruising. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gs joe Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Just now Aberdeen 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maipenrai Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 2 hours ago, forcebwithu said: Could be the result of medication a person is on, particularly blood thinners which can lead to easy bruising. My older brother was having some sort of blood platelet problem a couple of years ago and his skin was like this - same sort of thing you'd see in a haemophiliac, but thankfully he got straightened out with the right medicine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasseye Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 The first question that came to mind when I heard the news was regarding her Corgi's (heck, I'm a dog lover). I hesitated because I did not want to "offend" anyone, so I did not post that comment. Roughly five minutes later I came across a brilliant piece (I think it was in the NY Times, not sure) regarding the historical "line-up" of her Corgi family. If I remember correctly she had four at the time of her passing. I am sure those little tail wagers are wondering where Mama is. I would think they will be well taken care of though. IMO nothing greater or more powerful than the love between man and dog (both ways). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasseye Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 3 hours ago, forcebwithu said: Could be the result of medication a person is on, particularly blood thinners which can lead to easy bruising. Skin at that age becomes very thin and extremely "fragile". Simple bumps can turn into awful looking bruises. Usually looks worse than it actually is. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stillearly Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Glasseye said: The first question that came to mind when I heard the news was regarding her Corgi's (heck, I'm a dog lover). I hesitated because I did not want to "offend" anyone, so I did not post that comment. Roughly five minutes later I came across a brilliant piece (I think it was in the NY Times, not sure) regarding the historical "line-up" of her Corgi family. If I remember correctly she had four at the time of her passing. I am sure those little tail wagers are wondering where Mama is. I would think they will be well taken care of though. IMO nothing greater or more powerful than the love between man and dog (both ways). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painter Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Glasseye said: The first question that came to mind when I heard the news was regarding her Corgi's (heck, I'm a dog lover). I hesitated because I did not want to "offend" anyone, so I did not post that comment. Roughly five minutes later I came across a brilliant piece (I think it was in the NY Times, not sure) regarding the historical "line-up" of her Corgi family. If I remember correctly she had four at the time of her passing. I am sure those little tail wagers are wondering where Mama is. I would think they will be well taken care of though. IMO nothing greater or more powerful than the love between man and dog (both ways). https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2022/09/11/duke-duchess-york-will-take-queen-elizabeths-beloved-corgis/ Not going to c+p, but apparently Andrew and Fergie and taking them on 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy dee Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Stillearly said: "Backstairs Billy" with the corgis, he actually worked for the Queen mother not the queen. A royal favourite but disliked by the rest of Hm the Queen Mother's staff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stillearly Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 13 minutes ago, tommy dee said: "Backstairs Billy" with the corgis, he actually worked for the Queen mother not the queen. A royal favourite but disliked by the rest of Hm the Queen Mother's staff Think he died in 2007 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freee!! Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, Stillearly said: Think he died in 2007 November 23, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stillearly Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 I assumed it was a current picture .. 🤷♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy dee Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 30 minutes ago, Stillearly said: I assumed it was a current picture .. 🤷♂️ easy mistake as both Queens had corgis. Tallon was an alki, sadly, died from liver failure. Q Mother's favourite but disliked by many many around her. he was ousted within a few months of her passing away 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeb Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Good article - A Scots mile https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-13/queen-elizabeth-ii-body-in-rest-in-edinburgh-after-king-follows/101431018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom51red Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) Yesterday i watched with a mix of sad and proud emotions as they left balmoral and drove to edinburgh,watched as they drove through my home town then through dundee,proud of the turn out she received all along the way,ive been around balmoral and the hills there quite a lot doing the munros,balmoral is a lovely little town,seen the newsclips and lovely storys about how she often would walk near lochnagar munro when she was younger,how she felt about that beautifull area and what it meant to her,fully understand that ❤️. My mother was named after her. And as for these blm scumbags marching for the black allegedly innocent guy who was shot ,disrespectfull fuckers,should have turned the water cannons on them,time and place. rip mam Edited September 13, 2022 by Phantom51red 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom51red Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 SCIENCERemembering Queen Elizabeth’s Indelible Mark On Mt. Everest September 10, 2022Sam AndersonEverest Queen Elizabeth II, Sir Edmund Hillary, and Tenzing Norgay. Photos: Wiki Commons FacebookTwitterTumblrRedditLinkedInEmailShare May 29, 1953: Tenzing Norgay and Sir Edmund Hillary stood atop Mount Everest in the most badass moment of first ascent history ever. June 2, 1953: Traveling at mid-1950s speed, the news of the expedition’s success first reaches the British public. That was also the same day that Queen Elizabeth II had her coronation. That Thursday must have been a heady day for the British: On one front, their Commonwealth countryman (from New Zealand) stood on top of the world. On the home front, a young, vivacious new female monarch replaced a man who, though famously shy, guided the country through World War II with perceived aplomb. On Everest, British expedition leader John Hunt and other team members sat, still unaware of their comrades’ success. Anticipating the coronation, Hunt hoped the team could summit in time for the two to occur roughly together. But he had begun to lose hope, as the days dragged on with no news from Hillary and Norgay. Then he turned on the radio. “In our Mess tent after supper we turned on the wireless to hear the Coronation news; George Band tuned in to All India Radio,” Hunt wrote in his book, The Ascent of Everest. “In the second headline of the news summary, the announcer said: ‘The wonderful news broke in London last night that Everest has been climbed by the British Expedition.’” Presumably, the group in the tent stared at each other. “We were dumbfounded…With growing excitement and fascination, we listened further. The Queen and the Prime Minister had sent telegrams of congratulation to us via the British Ambassador in Kathmandu; the news had been announced on the loudspeakers along the Coronation route; the crowds had cheered; and so on.” Libations followed. So did seven decades of radical change. To an individual, Brits may very well have roundly celebrated on Coronation day back in 1953. But two prominent public emotions met the news of Queen Elizabeth II’s death on Thursday. In some circles, social criticism tinged the broader sentiment of personal grief. Few figureheads have reigned over a global superpower as long as the Queen ruled the Commonwealth. And for anyone in a position of political power, their reputation reflects their country’s reputation. While inspiring, some criticize the first ascent of Mt. Everest as a symbol of colonialism. Arguments exist that the it functioned as a direct act of it. The Tibetans call the peak Qomolangma, meaning “Goddess Mother of the World.” In Nepali, the mountain’s name is Sagarmatha, translated sometimes as “Sky’s Head,” sometimes as “The Mountain So High No Bird Can Fly Over It.” In English, we name it after the Westerner who hired the brilliant Indian mathematician who first calculated its height, and realized that it was, in fact, the world’s highest peak. But humans are nothing if not our own self-contained opposites, and meaningful social progress has also occurred since 1953. The events of June 2 occurred as Great Britain rapidly approached an identity crisis. Consider the following: In his bestselling book Elizabethans: How Modern Britain Was Forged, former BBC journalist Andrew Marr described the Coronation this way: “Few moments now, certainly not a royal moment, can embrace the entire nation in such unity…. It was as though a family was celebrating, and its celebrations were infectious, too, and were shared by other peoples everywhere,” he wrote. John Hunt’s celebrating team in the tent on Everest must have felt that way; “The Sherpas naturally shared in the revelry,” he reported warmly. In her book Coronation Everest, celebrated author and explorer Jan Morris describes a British public “at last emerging from the austerity which had plagued them since the Second World War, but at the same time facing the loss of their great Empire and the inevitable decline of their power in the world.” An individual with an exuberant attitude living under a repressed but rapidly changing system is a volatile thing that can become beautiful indeed. Witness Morris, who joined the 1953 British expedition to Everest — as James Morris, a young male reporter. Morris’ code phrase, “Snow conditions bad,” sent from Namche Bazaar to the British Embassy in Kathmandu, signaled that the climb had succeeded and triggered the news that Britons heard that day. By 1970, Morris had come out as trans. And by her death in November 2020, she’d published over 40 books, ardently writing and traveling in spite of the hostility she faced. Jan Morris, at home in North Wales. Photo: Antonio Olmos/The Observer She died nothing less than a legend. “The greatest distance traveled by Jan Morris, who has died aged 94, was not across the Earth’s surface but between extraordinary identities: from being the golden-boy newspaper reporter James Morris to the female voyager and historian Jan Morris. “She became an institution after having experienced the world, and herself in it, change radically in a lifetime,” The Guardian wrote in a paean obituary of the writer. The more things stay the same, the more things change. In western reports of Himalaya climbs, Sherpas now play foreground roles. The first all-Black expedition to climb Mt. Everest succeeded this past season. The Full Circle Everest team. Photo: Full Circle And it turned out James Morris wouldn’t be the only person to both change their gender identity and pursue their ambitions on Mt. Everest. If you’re like me, you were surprised to learn that Norgay and Hillary’s news broke on the same historic day that Queen Elizabeth II first donned her crown. And if you’re like me, you hope the next generation of young world leaders — symbolic or not — preside over a lot more occasions for celebration and camaraderie. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 10, 2022Sam AndersonEverest Queen Elizabeth II, Sir Edmund Hillary, and Tenzing Norgay. Photos: Wiki Commons FacebookTwitterTumblrRedditLinkedInEmailShare May 29, 1953: Tenzing Norgay and Sir Edmund Hillary stood atop Mount Everest in the most badass moment of first ascent history ever. June 2, 1953: Traveling at mid-1950s speed, the news of the expedition’s success first reaches the British public. That was also the same day that Queen Elizabeth II had her coronation. That Thursday must have been a heady day for the British: On one front, their Commonwealth countryman (from New Zealand) stood on top of the world. On the home front, a young, vivacious new female monarch replaced a man who, though famously shy, guided the country through World War II with perceived aplomb. On Everest, British expedition leader John Hunt and other team members sat, still unaware of their comrades’ success. Anticipating the coronation, Hunt hoped the team could summit in time for the two to occur roughly together. But he had begun to lose hope, as the days dragged on with no news from Hillary and Norgay. Then he turned on the radio. “In our Mess tent after supper we turned on the wireless to hear the Coronation news; George Band tuned in to All India Radio,” Hunt wrote in his book, The Ascent of Everest. “In the second headline of the news summary, the announcer said: ‘The wonderful news broke in London last night that Everest has been climbed by the British Expedition.’” Presumably, the group in the tent stared at each other. “We were dumbfounded…With growing excitement and fascination, we listened further. The Queen and the Prime Minister had sent telegrams of congratulation to us via the British Ambassador in Kathmandu; the news had been announced on the loudspeakers along the Coronation route; the crowds had cheered; and so on.” Libations followed. So did seven decades of radical change. To an individual, Brits may very well have roundly celebrated on Coronation day back in 1953. But two prominent public emotions met the news of Queen Elizabeth II’s death on Thursday. In some circles, social criticism tinged the broader sentiment of personal grief. Few figureheads have reigned over a global superpower as long as the Queen ruled the Commonwealth. And for anyone in a position of political power, their reputation reflects their country’s reputation. While inspiring, some criticize the first ascent of Mt. Everest as a symbol of colonialism. Arguments exist that the it functioned as a direct act of it. The Tibetans call the peak Qomolangma, meaning “Goddess Mother of the World.” In Nepali, the mountain’s name is Sagarmatha, translated sometimes as “Sky’s Head,” sometimes as “The Mountain So High No Bird Can Fly Over It.” In English, we name it after the Westerner who hired the brilliant Indian mathematician who first calculated its height, and realized that it was, in fact, the world’s highest peak. But humans are nothing if not our own self-contained opposites, and meaningful social progress has also occurred since 1953. The events of June 2 occurred as Great Britain rapidly approached an identity crisis. Consider the following: In his bestselling book Elizabethans: How Modern Britain Was Forged, former BBC journalist Andrew Marr described the Coronation this way: “Few moments now, certainly not a royal moment, can embrace the entire nation in such unity…. It was as though a family was celebrating, and its celebrations were infectious, too, and were shared by other peoples everywhere,” he wrote. John Hunt’s celebrating team in the tent on Everest must have felt that way; “The Sherpas naturally shared in the revelry,” he reported warmly. In her book Coronation Everest, celebrated author and explorer Jan Morris describes a British public “at last emerging from the austerity which had plagued them since the Second World War, but at the same time facing the loss of their great Empire and the inevitable decline of their power in the world.” An individual with an exuberant attitude living under a repressed but rapidly changing system is a volatile thing that can become beautiful indeed. Witness Morris, who joined the 1953 British expedition to Everest — as James Morris, a young male reporter. Morris’ code phrase, “Snow conditions bad,” sent from Namche Bazaar to the British Embassy in Kathmandu, signaled that the climb had succeeded and triggered the news that Britons heard that day. By 1970, Morris had come out as trans. And by her death in November 2020, she’d published over 40 books, ardently writing and traveling in spite of the hostility she faced. Jan Morris, at home in North Wales. Photo: Antonio Olmos/The Observer She died nothing less than a legend. “The greatest distance traveled by Jan Morris, who has died aged 94, was not across the Earth’s surface but between extraordinary identities: from being the golden-boy newspaper reporter James Morris to the female voyager and historian Jan Morris. “She became an institution after having experienced the world, and herself in it, change radically in a lifetime,” The Guardian wrote in a paean obituary of the writer. The more things stay the same, the more things change. In western reports of Himalaya climbs, Sherpas now play foreground roles. The first all-Black expedition to climb Mt. Everest succeeded this past season. The Full Circle Everest team. Photo: Full Circle And it turned out James Morris wouldn’t be the only person to both change their gender identity and pursue their ambitions on Mt. Everest. If you’re like me, you were surprised to learn that Norgay and Hillary’s news broke on the same historic day that Queen Elizabeth II first donned her crown. And if you’re like me, you hope the next generation of young world leaders — symbolic or not — preside over a lot more occasions for celebration and camaraderie.
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